"Нью-Йорк Никс". Сезон 2009-10

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Галлинари, имея прекрасный бросок, стреляет по кольцу всего 5 раз, при чем в основном из ужасных позиций. Майк для чего вообще на посту тренера сидит?

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По Ти-Маку особых новостей нет, но колего его чертовски беспокоет и это видно невооруженным взглядом.

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A Primer For New York's 2010 Summer

By: Christopher Reina

RealGM.com Writer

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Now that the Knicks have gone 'all-in' for the summer of 2010, everyone is wondering what kind of team Donnie Walsh can build to surround LeBron James and a fellow free agent of his choosing should that portion of the franchise's plan succeed.

There really is no precedent for a big market team handng over so much power to one incoming player in the history of the sport. The Clippers nearly succeeded in signing Kobe Bryant in 2004 with the promise of everything, even playing games closer to his Orange County home and a roster that was more title-worthy at the time than his incumbent Lakers, along with sizable influence over the roster. He ended up remaining with the Lakers and found success much later than he was anticipating (1).

Even though it may seem otherwise to some people, I genuinely and sincerely don't have a horse in this race whatsoever. I lived in New York City a couple years ago and have visited Cleveland long enough to know just how much both cities have riding on this summer for as much as sports could possibly mean.

I simply find the situation and all of the maneuvers that have led up to it one of the most fascinating we've seen in sports in a very long time. I hope he comes to New York for everything that will mean and what it would potentially look like. But at the same time, I hope he stays in Cleveland for everything that will mean and what it would potentially look like.

Here are a few scenarios, however, of what the Knicks can do in July regardless of whether LeBron comes or not.

The LeBron +1 Scenario

The Knicks are in a situation to sign LeBron to a max contract with the added incentive of telling him to bring whichever superstar friend he can also recruit, whether it be Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Joe Johnson or even Amare Stoudemire or Carlos Boozer.

Interestingly, one member of the free agent class of 2005 had an opportunity to join LeBron in Cleveland, but both Ray Allen and Michael Redd turned down the opportunity, preferring to re-sign with Seattle and Milwaukee respectively and they were stuck with Larry Hughes as their Plan C in a 'use it or lose it' cap space situation.

At the time, LeBron was simply a 20-year-old phenom who had just shattered Shaquille O'Neal's record of 22.9 for best PER at the age of 20 by posting a 25.7 mark while averaging 27.2 points, 7.4 boards, 7.2 assists and 2.2 steals per game. That Cleveland team, featuring Zydrunas Ilgauskas and the likes of Jeff McInnis, Drew Gooden, Ira Newble, Eric Snow and Robert Traylor in significant roles, did not make the playoffs.

Given New York's current roster, what's left of it, their two best players are Wilson Chandler and Danilo Gallinari. They both are swingmen, while LeBron and Wade are also swingmen. Four swingmen as the top four players could conceivably work for three distinct reasons.

1. LeBron is the most versatile player in the history of the game and will evolve into more of a Charles Barkley power forward while maintaining his 6'9" Magic Johnson passing ability as he ages.

2. Wade is also extremely versatile and may evolve into more of a hybrid point guard as he ages.

3. Mike D'Antoni's system allows it and even demands it.

However, in an ideal world of need (a big) and age (two years difference), Bosh would be the preferable option if the decision was in my hands.

I believe Bosh is far less likely to leave Toronto than Wade is to leave Miami, but he would give New York the more sustainable and balanced chance to win titles. He's clearly not the most physical big in the world and would struggle defensively if asked to consistently defend true offensively gifted centers, but he has a window of being one of the game's top five players for another eight seasons, whereas Wade's window is closer to four. The age difference accounts for two of those seasons and the other two is attributable to how much more quickly swingmen decline as opposed to bigs, particularly bigs who score with their face-up game as much as Bosh.

Potentially, the Knicks could complete a sign-and-trade with Cleveland where LeBron gets six years and the maximum dollar amount, while the Cavaliers absorb one season of Eddy Curry's contract, take on a re-signed David Lee and get out from under a contract that only makes sense if LeBron is on your team in Anderson Varejao. Varejao is owed over $41 million over the upcoming five seasons.

A more likely sign-and-trade scenario from Cleveland's perspective, depending on the cap, would be a more simple one where the Knicks use their cap space to absorb the more lucrative, extra year contract LeBron could only sign with the Cavaliers in return for a future pick. This was done in the summer of 2007 by the Sonics and Magic with the contract of Rashard Lewis.

This is also possible for Bosh, since the Raptors would have a greater desire and need for Lee and in this situation, Jose Calderon or even Hedo Turkoglu could also be moved to the Knicks. If Bosh leaves for the Knicks, Lee's best option contractually would probably be Toronto and the Raptors could replace Bosh with an All-Star, albeit far and away less talented, who plays the same position and a similar style.

In terms of acquiring other talent, the primary positions of need are clearly a defensive big and point guard. Assuming they don't buy him out, Curry's expiring contract for 10-11 instantly becomes their most valuable trade asset. New York could use the $11.276 million he is owed for 10-11 and make a lopsided trade with a team looking to clear cap space for 2011 and unload a burdensome contract.

I went through all 29 other teams and these are the players I found as potential targets:

- Luol Deng ($11.345M in 10-11, $12.325M in 11-12) or Kirk Hinrich ($9M in 10-11, $8M in 11-12)

Assuming they don't sign LeBron, Bosh or Wade, Chicago could sign Boozer or Stoudemire this summer to a contract short of the max, clear out one or both of these players ahead of 2011 and sign someone like Carmelo Anthony depending on where the cap goes and how much Joakim Noah makes in the first year of his new contract.

- Ben Gordon ($10.8M in 10-11)

Not a point guard, but Gordon can defend opposing point guards and the Knicks get by without a true one due to LeBron's versatility. An excellent perimeter shooter who would be absolutely lethal as the third or fourth offensive option while stretching defenses.

- Monta Ellis ($11M in 10-11, $33M owed thereafter), Andris Biedrins ($9M in 10-11, $27M thereafter)

The Warriors would want a whole lot more than an expiring contract back in return for Ellis, but he clearly will be available this summer. Biedrins would come at a cheaper price and would become their much-needed defensive big. Ideally, the Knicks would be able to acquire both players in one fell swoop to fill those two needs, but the Knicks won't have the salary to make it possible financially.

- Baron Davis ($13M in 10-11, owed combined $28.65M in 11-12 and 12-13)

Davis is a big personality, who will be 31 this summer but he is still one of the better point guards in the NBA when motivated. He would take on a reduced scoring role, being a MDA facilitator and a spot-up shooter. Even though he is streaky, Baron is a better perimeter shooter than the stats show since so many are ill-advised attempts off the dribble. He's a proven clutch performer and would enjoy continuing his show business aspirations in New York.

From the Clippers perspective, 2011 has always been the more realistic summer ever since Blake Griffin was declared out for his entire rookie season. He will get to audition for one whole year and then the Clippers could sign two max contracts or one max, a $10M and a valuable role player.

- Emeka Okafor ($11.795M in 10-11, $41.369M owed thereafter)

Trading away Okafor merely for cap space would undoubtedly set Chris Paul on fire, but the Hornets remain stuck in limbo. They have a big payroll that they can't really afford (which will get bigger when David West is a 2011 ETO) and they're still not a title contender. I suspect the Knicks would have to include Chandler or Gallinari in order to make this begin to be worth it for New Orleans. Okafor hasn't performed up to his contract, but he would give New York their defensive big.

- Steve Nash ($10.31M in 10-11, $11.689M in 11-12)

He isn't owed burdensome money and the Suns would have no motivation to deal him other than to do an incredible favor to a player that has given quite a bit to his franchise (2). Phoenix could recoup an asset in Chandler or Gallinari in return while having all the cap space in the world and one of the rare warm weather cities in the NBA to offer in 2011.

- Beno Udrih ($6.478M, $12.297M in remaining two seasons thereafter, $5.5M in 10-11, $11.9 in remaining two seasons)

This is the 'eh, why not?' trade for New York and represents a sample worst case scenario with what they can convert Curry's contract into. Udrih is a fairly competent point guard while Garcia's acquisition follows Cleveland's effective strategy of bringing in great spot-up 3-point shooters. Sacramento clips two spare parts from its payroll and clears cap space for 2011.

- Jose Calderon ($9M in 10-11, $20.341M in remaining two seasons thereafter)

If Bosh does leave Toronto, this is probably the most plausible scenario, mentioned above in a sign-and-trade. Calderon would thrive as the MDA point guard and the Raptors would have just under $29M in committed salary for 2011.

- Mehmet Okur ($9.945 in 10-11, $10.89M in 11-12)

This deal is more likely to occur next February rather than during the summer depending on where Utah stands in terms of contention, which is ironically somewhat dependent on what kind of first round pick they receive from New York this June. The Jazz receive significant savings for the 11-12 season, whether it is for cap space if Boozer leaves, or the luxury tax if he re-signs.

The LeBron Plus Role Player Free Agents Scenario

Even though everyone is focusing strictly on the implications of having a second max contract slot, the Knicks don't have to spend all of their remaining cap space on simply another max slot.

They can spread $10M of it here and $7M of it there, or $13M over there and $4M right here; the most important question may be does GM LeBron want to play with another superduperstar or would he rather have two more role players to add to Chandler and Gallinari?

This could conceivably include re-signing David Lee for something in the neighborhood of $11M in the first season and then having $6M for a defensive veteran center like Marcus Camby.

Looking at RealGM's list of 2010 free agents, here are the names that catch my eye:

- Rudy Gay (RFA), Gay's acquisition would have to precipitate a trade of Chandler for another asset. There isn't as much of a gap between the two players as one might think, but Gay is a much better perimeter shooter and has enough talent to become a poor man's Scottie Pippen when paired next to LeBron and in MDA's free-flowing system.

- Brendan Haywood (UFA): After a ton of seasons in Washington that went unnoticed, he has emerged as a highly respected name around all NBA circles for his defensive prowess, as Clyde Frazier would say. He isn't an offensive threat on his own, but he is efficient in his opportunities and the difference he makes defensively is enormous.

- Jermaine O'Neal (UFA): O'Neal will be a mid-level exception candidate for teams over the cap, taking a big paycut from what he is currently making. He is having an underrated season with a PER of 18.0 and is a more efficient scorer than he was in Indiana. He has fallen off considerably as a defender, but he still is a very good shotblocker.

- Marcus Camby (UFA): This would be Camby's second stint with the Knicks and though he is significantly older, he still has two or three seasons left as a defender, elbow shooter and distributor.

- Raymond Felton (UFA): Felton is a proven NBA starter at the point guard position and is just about to reach his prime. He has never been able to play with anyone offensively gifted and he could blossom with LeBron similarly to Mo Williams. Williams was consistently around 38% as a three-point shooter in Milwaukee before becoming a reliable 40% guy with Cleveland. Felton has a percentage of 39.6% from distance this season; he is also two years younger than Williams and is more athletic.

- Luke Ridnour (UFA): Ridnour is known to be a person of interest to New York and would be an ideal cheap point guard to sign in free agency. He'll contribute immediately, direct traffic at point guard and be an excellent 3-point option. He has a 18.0 PER (easily his career best), which ranks him 9th amongst point guards this season and ahead of players such as Derrick Rose, Tony Parker and Mo Williams.

- Jordan Farmar (RFA): Farmar can be a change of scenery success story and is probably better suited for MDA's system than the triangle. He is an athletic defender with a good basketball IQ and a good perimeter jumper.

- CJ Watson (RFA): Watson desperately wants out of Golden State to sign a long term deal and they're unlikely to match anything too sizable. He has a clear history of being able to score efficiently and is the kind of guy who can succeed in a non-traditional point guard type of role.

- J.J. Redick (RFA): Redick has played well this season for Orlando and is one of the game's finest shooters. Though not as skilled, he could play a similar role with this team as the Knicks envisioned when they fell in love with Stephen Curry before last year's draft.

The Catastrophe Scenario

Because of the 2011 draft class and the insane amount of space they would have had that summer anyways, the Knicks didn't have a true catastrophe scenario for 2010 until they unloaded Jared Jeffries. Because the cost was so high, even if LeBron, Wade and Bosh sign long-term extensions, they will almost certainly have to use their space this summer instead of waiting on Carmelo in order to justify the move. It is unfortunate, but that was what made the move so risky and why so many people believe the risk wasn't worth the potential reward.

If the Knicks are unable to sign any one of those three players, then they will likely sign Joe Johnson and either Amare Stoudemire or Carlos Boozer. All three of those players will have difficulty approaching a full max offer from another team, though I suspect Johnson is the least likely to have concern since he would be such a great fit for New Jersey, Chicago and the Clippers.

Johnson has a familiarly with D'Antoni from their time together in Phoenix and going to New York will finally allow him to become a known name and face to the casual sports fan.

Stoudemire is also familiar with D'Antoni, which could factor against the match as much as it can help it. But they could need each other a whole lot more than they don't and Stoudemire has matured as a ballplayer with his face-up game. I think he'll get there in terms of personality once he gets his extension.

A team that features Johnson, Stoudemire/Boozer, Gallinari and Chandler should be plenty good enough to be a perennial fourth or fifth seed in the Eastern Conference at the very least.

It is still possible that Johnson re-signs with Atlanta or signs a max deal for one of those other teams listed above, while Amare signs a max deal to join Wade in Miami and Boozer re-signs with Utah.

That would leave the Knicks scrambling to sign Rudy Gay, maybe Manu Ginobili and some sort of collection of other free agents listed above. They would put their best team on the floor than they have in years, but will not be a title contender and won't likely become one since picks will be either traded to or flipped with Houston over the next two summers.

The Absolute Catastrophe Scenario

New York's nightmare scenario is if LeBron exercises his player option for the 10-11 season to spend one more year in Cleveland and reevaluate where the Knicks are in terms of existing talent in the summer of 2011.

Would they wait for him even though they have given up so much to make room for him and one more player in 2010? Or would they move on with the above Joe Johnson scenario?

An option that they have already formulated, but is cringe-worthy, would be to re-sign Tracy McGrady to a one-year contract in order to preserve that 2011 space. They at least will see what McGrady has left over the final two months before making that decision, but that type of signing resembles a repeat of what made the Knicks so unsuccessful during the previous decade.

The Three-Dream Team Scenario

This scenario is extremely unlikely, meaning we must now question everything we know about the laws of the universe unlikely, but it is still not one I'm willing to dismiss until I at least propose it with a reserved trademark on the moniker.

LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh would all sign with the Knicks (3) while splitting up whatever cap room (likely $34M) is available in any which way they choose.

They can split it up equally three ways as if they were a rock band power trio like Cream, Nirvana or Green Day. Or maybe LeBron can take less while Wade and Bosh take more money, under the premise of LeBron having more to gain on the back end (borrowing a movie term) and also because he is likely to have the longer career because of his physical gifts and younger age.

I did the math with factoring in an 8% raise in the first year and then fixed raises thereafter if the three of them split $34M; they will each be guaranteed approximately $64.249M over their five-year contract. Not factoring in a sixth year that only their current teams can offer, the Knicks can offer just over $96M over five seasons.

A loss of $32M during the absolute prime of these kinds of players is a lot of money. Even at $6.4M annually, not even a major net gain for Bosh or Wade in terms of an increase in endorsement dollars for playing in New York with LeBron and winning titles -- would likely make that up. In other words, they will be directly trading actual money for the best shot possible to win titles.

The financial loss of leaving their current team to sign a max contract is a relatively negligible total of $4.14M over a five-year span (3).

If LeBron genuinely has his sights on becoming a billionaire, he will have to play about 40 more seasons at $20M a pop in order to get there from just drawing NBA paychecks. He'll reach that amount with off-court business interests, everybody knows that. Playing in New York isn't a prerequisite for him to become a billionaire and in fact it could possibly work against him depending on what the backlash is like for abandoning Cleveland.

In terms of his legacy (tied directly to endorsement potential), here is where I rank everything in terms of importance:

1. Championships 2. Continued unbridled dominance where he is light years better than everyone else 3. The city of the team in which he plays for those championships

LeBron's legacy is akin to Charles Barkley or Dan Marino if he doesn't win titles, that solves number one.

LeBron's legacy is akin to someone like Bill Walton or a more sustained run of dominance than Tracy McGrady/Penny Hardaway if he gets hurt and fades quickly. Unlikely, that solves number two.

As far as number three, he is charismatic enough to be relevant in Cleveland, Ohio or Toledo, Ohio if he's winning titles or not, though the stink of that will begin to be very pronounced if he doesn't win one by June 2011 or June 2012. But for the sake of argument, let's compare the careers of Tim Duncan and Derek Jeter. Duncan has four titles as the unquestioned best player on his team. Jeter has five titles while being the unquestioned leader of his team but one of a collection of other stars. Duncan is a future Hall of Famer who tries to be bland. Jeter is a future Hall of Famer who tries to be bland, but has enough inert charisma and plays in New York, so he is the biggest household name in baseball since Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle in an era when the NFL has become dominant. Jeter's celebrity success is directly tied to points one, two and three above, though on a much more balanced level.

If LeBron has enough influence to convince Bosh and Wade, two future Hall of Famers, though not billionaire candidates, to team together and become the greatest collection of superstars ever assembled in basketball free agency, then I think you would have to tip your hat to him and to them and just sit there while they win maybe four to seven or eight of the NBA titles in this decade. The sacrifice of guaranteed money would likely be paid back to all three (4) many times over because of that success and it would be an example of some degree of selflessness in an increasingly selfish time.

Notes

1.) Kobe struggled during his first three seasons without Shaquille O'Neal playing on a talent-starved team while missing the playoffs in 04-05 and getting knocked out in the first round by the Suns in the 2006 and 2007 Playoffs. The frustration led Kobe to spend the entire 2007 summer attempting to get out of Los Angeles with his primary focus on Chicago following his displeasure in failing to trade Andrew Bynum for Jason Kidd, and their inability to make a deal for the likes of Jermaine O'Neal or Kevin Garnett, who had long been rumored to be going to the Lakers when he left Minnesota.

Mitch Kupchak, Jerry Buss and Phil Jackson stalled on Kobe who then saw the development of Bynum during the first part of that season and then the eventual trade for Pau Gasol. Now Kobe and the Lakers have won one title, appeared in another Finals and remain one of the NBA's clear favorites indefinitely.

2.) Think Minnesota dealing Kevin Garnett to Boson as the precedent. That trade would be heavily favored in Minnesota's factor if not for Boston winning the 2008 title.

3.) The potential of this scenario, as far fetched as it is, seems exclusive to these three players. Given their relationship stemming from being in the same draft and Team USA competition, as well as being the unquestioned best three free agents. I couldn't see them considering it with someone like Stoudemire for instance.

4.) The bigger loss would be during their next contract, which would affect LeBron more than Wade and Bosh because he is almost certain to sign a brand new max in the summer of 2016. Wade will be 34 that summer and almost certainly be a reduced version of his current self, while Bosh could go either way depending on his health since he is a big. LeBron will be just 31 at the time and in the same exact situation as Kobe is right now, as he also angles for an extension.

5.) At the very least, LeBron would be paid back and fully become the sports version of Jay-Z, which from every indication seems to be the plan.

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Свежачок из стана команды...

Начнем как обычно с Ти-Мака... После обследования по окончанию матча Никс - Селтикс, врачи пришли к мнению, что у Трейси никаких рецидивов нет и все боли, которые он испытывает возникают лишь от того, что он не до конца восстановился после травмы, намекая тренеру Майку о том, что они его предупреждали о подобном, а он упорно стоял на своем. Также сказано, что если Тяма будет получать по 20-25 минут в каждом матче, то он сможет восстановиться к концу марта - началу апреля. По их словам, ни в коем случае нельзя перегружать колени Греди. Трейси же в свою очередь, в интервью немного оправдывался после неудачной последней игры и сказал, что чувствует усталость в ногах после того, как переигрывает больше 20-ти минут на паркете, а также, что он не стремится так быстро реабилитироваться, как прогнозируют врачи и готов ждать милости от своего здоровья хоть до конца года, ибо у него все впереди. В последнем интервью, он конечно загнул нехило по всем статьям.

Вторая же новость про тренера, а вернее про то, что в Мегаполисе вовсю возрастает уровень неприязни к коучу Майку, что собственно чертовски логично. Аналитики говорят о том, что перед Уолшем была поставлена задача в последние годы, максимально разгрузить платежку, дабы летом 2010 года урвать лакомый кусок и Донни подошел к этой задаче с максимальной ответственностью, что нынче мы можем наблюдать в salary cap Никс. А вот Д'Энтони не сделал ровным счетом ничего, лишь иногда выдавая со своими подопечными фееричные отрезки. Никакого прогресса в игре Никс не наблюдалось и не наблюдает, причем активно пошли сравнения с Айзеей, хотя казалось бы, его врядли кто переплюнет, но нет, в Нью Йорке считают по-другому. В связи с этим, активно мусируется новая кандидатура на пост главного тренера в следующем сезоне. А именно - Байрон Скотт.

Вот такие новости, товарищи.

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Не Чендлер ли сегодня подарил Вашингтону овертайм, бросая в абсолютно дурном проходе через лес рук?

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не знаю я не любитель никс чтоб смотреть все их игры

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Чендлер загадил конечно игру. Лишь несколько вменяемых эпизодов было. А ведь это человек, который должен быть активным в плане прохода и проникновения в краску, когда "Никс" играют в баскетбол Ти-Мака. В том числе и при айзо.

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Чуствую что в Нью Йорк никто не перейдет.Слишком лисая команда у них на то что бы стать контендером им потребуеться 2-3 сезона, а то и больше сомневаюсь что кто то собираеться стоко ждать.Скорейе Брон окажеться В Джерси и Бош тоже может последовать за ним.

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Хм ну у НЙН возможно будут Ли Чендлер и Галлинари.Не думаю что это лысая команда.Ну уж не хуже чем у Кливленда.

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Ну харашо Ли сможет сиграться с броном, а остальние двое как они собираються играть с броном они вроде одной позиции?Ну если брон станет разигриваещем тогда еще куда нешло.Хотя интересно било б посмотреть его руководящим бегущей команидой)))))))

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Чуствую что в Нью Йорк никто не перейдет.Слишком лисая команда у них на то что бы стать контендером им потребуеться 2-3 сезона, а то и больше сомневаюсь что кто то собираеться стоко ждать.Скорейе Брон окажеться В Джерси и Бош тоже может последовать за ним.

Йорк перестраивается уже кучу лет и к лету 2010 года подходят с идеальной платежной ведомостью, честь и хвала Уолшу, именно по этой причине она и выглядит лысой. А что Джерси? Они уже перестроены до такой кондиции, что могут претендовать на перстни?

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Ну харашо Ли сможет сиграться с броном, а остальние двое как они собираються играть с броном они вроде одной позиции?Ну если брон станет разигриваещем тогда еще куда нешло.Хотя интересно било б посмотреть его руководящим бегущей команидой)))))))

так эти двое и сейчас играют СГ и ПФ.Думаю галло вообще идеальный партнер для Леброна и Чендлеру надо над бросокм поработать летом.

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Ну в Джерси есть пик високий Девин Харис, Брук Лопез,Ли которий идеально подходит Брону,еще куча молодежи)))))

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Ага, особенно Харрис.